This logo needs to be fairly simple, as it will be the publishing house logo appearing on book spines and therefore quite small. 

My idea for it is to have it be a spiral that looks like one that could be chipped into a rock, like a petroglyph, with the name Timeless Ways beneath it.

I also think that having the spiral made out of two ply string, like the kind our ancestors made out of plant fiber, could be a powerful design 

I would also like to compare designs that are a simple spiral and a spiral with a simple flame- perhaps a spiral that looks like a petroglyph inside of a flame?

I was very happy with Rizuki's work. I loved their original design, and every revision was just what I was looking for and done promptly. They were communicative, thorough, skilled and professional. I couldn't be happier with my new logo!